Comments on: Environmentalism, Spirituality, Anarchy, oh my! http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/ Teachings & Musings of a Retired Shaman Mon, 02 Apr 2012 20:01:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Shaman Hawk http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-208 Shaman Hawk Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:32:02 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-208 I've found the focus skills of battle can cause disorientation in civilian life. It took me a while to get back. All lands are governed by some entity, civil or otherwise. As a pilot I was surprised to learn in Europe there was no "free airspace" as we have here. I’ve found the focus skills of battle can cause disorientation in civilian life. It took me a while to get back.

All lands are governed by some entity, civil or otherwise.
As a pilot I was surprised to learn in Europe there was no “free airspace” as we have here.

]]> By: Rab L Rouser http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-206 Rab L Rouser Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:08:25 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-206 Growing up as a poor farm kid in a poor mid western state taught me to distrust anyone who wears a tie and that scratchin dirt just to feed yourself leaves you dirty, tired and fed. My "Foresight in making decisions about where I put myself and my energy" came to me around the same time as you in a true moment of un-clarity. In a foreign land fighting a foreign war, for reasons I lost sight of. I longed for the days of scratchin dirt, but never made back. How do you suppose "The City" came to own quite much land and field in Jussi's world? Growing up as a poor farm kid in a poor mid western state taught me to distrust anyone who wears a tie and that scratchin dirt just to feed yourself leaves you dirty, tired and fed.

My “Foresight in making decisions about where I put myself and my energy” came to me around the same time as you in a true moment of un-clarity. In a foreign land fighting a foreign war, for reasons I lost sight of. I longed for the days of scratchin dirt, but never made back.

How do you suppose “The City” came to own quite much land and field in Jussi’s world?

]]> By: Shaman Hawk http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-199 Shaman Hawk Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:17:41 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-199 When we like to still say that our government is by the people and for the people we must admit that is "we the people" who are the stupid ones. The cities are more focused on collecting properties from buildings or houses built on vacant lots that renting them to people. In one town, Coral Springs, Florida, it was illegal to have a vegetable garden at your house. It would be easy for the people to vote and change that law. Yes, we live in the land of the free. We are free to be as stupid as we want and that's why our war machine is out in the world spreading democracy so others can enjoy the same freedom. When we like to still say that our government is by the people and for the people we must admit that is “we the people” who are the stupid ones.

The cities are more focused on collecting properties from buildings or houses built on vacant lots that renting them to people. In one town, Coral Springs, Florida, it was illegal to have a vegetable garden at your house. It would be easy for the people to vote and change that law.

Yes, we live in the land of the free. We are free to be as stupid as we want and that’s why our war machine is out in the world spreading democracy so others can enjoy the same freedom.

]]> By: Jussi http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-187 Jussi Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:26:07 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-187 I am not sure, if I am capable to understand how stupid your goverment actually is. Well, here it is quite popular to rent a small gardening area from town. City owns quite much land and fields. There are these small gardening fields divided to about one acre at size, so anyone can rent a place and do gardening as a hobby, even if living in apartment building, where would be no chance otherwise. Some grow there flowers, while others vegetables and those are so well kept usually, the whole area is quite nice an pretty. I am not sure, if I am capable to understand how stupid your goverment actually is. Well, here it is quite popular to rent a small gardening area from town. City owns quite much land and fields. There are these small gardening fields divided to about one acre at size, so anyone can rent a place and do gardening as a hobby, even if living in apartment building, where would be no chance otherwise. Some grow there flowers, while others vegetables and those are so well kept usually, the whole area is quite nice an pretty.

]]> By: Shaman Hawk http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Shaman Hawk Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:43:05 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-173 Jussi, You are describing the virtue of complete thought, something that is missing in American society and the activist movement. I was in Germany a few years ago and I was very impressed with the everyday policies towards the environment and the active participation of everyone in them. The government is writing laws here to make home gardening illegal and the people just do nothing but bitch about eating GMO foods. I am ashamed to say the American government even wants to sue other countries by the world court for refusing to buy our GMO products. After 40 years in American activism I see no improvement in its approach or the quality of people in it. I can only continue in my own small, proactive movement. Jussi,

You are describing the virtue of complete thought, something that is missing in American society and the activist movement.
I was in Germany a few years ago and I was very impressed with the everyday policies towards the environment and the active participation of everyone in them.

The government is writing laws here to make home gardening illegal and the people just do nothing but bitch about eating GMO foods. I am ashamed to say the American government even wants to sue other countries by the world court for refusing to buy our GMO products.

After 40 years in American activism I see no improvement in its approach or the quality of people in it. I can only continue in my own small, proactive movement.

]]> By: Jussi http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Jussi Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:38:51 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-171 Just to add, that it is common well being, enviromentalists should understand they are selling. And not just selling like capitalists, refrigators for eskomos or igluus to africa, but actually it is educating work. To spread understanding how people affect their surroundings and then givin them tools, how they can affect the way they really want. Do they want to sit on pile of nuclear contaminated shit after 100 years or what it is they really want. TO make them think. Just to add, that it is common well being, enviromentalists should understand they are selling. And not just selling like capitalists, refrigators for eskomos or igluus to africa, but actually it is educating work. To spread understanding how people affect their surroundings and then givin them tools, how they can affect the way they really want. Do they want to sit on pile of nuclear contaminated shit after 100 years or what it is they really want. TO make them think.

]]> By: Jussi http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Jussi Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:15:39 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-170 Looks like your enviromentalist are just children, who cannot cope, yelling for mama to change their diapers. I quess it is Germany and Europe with leading laws and regulations for recycle. Actually it is illegal not to recycle and laws forces every home to do their work there. I am educated as a professional enviromenlist of agriculture, forestry and urban living. Best ways to influence is through money. Ordinary people can understand how great savings, how much money they and society can save with recycle and how much from saved money can be redirected for example to healthcare. It is the goverment who can set taxes to favor different, green or not so green powerplants, but ordinary people can make big difference with their daily choices, by buying sustainably produced products. That of course needs education, what kind of products should be favored. Blind faith or 'green marks' do not always tell the truth. Looks like your enviromentalist are just children, who cannot cope, yelling for mama to change their diapers. I quess it is Germany and Europe with leading laws and regulations for recycle. Actually it is illegal not to recycle and laws forces every home to do their work there.
I am educated as a professional enviromenlist of agriculture, forestry and urban living. Best ways to influence is through money. Ordinary people can understand how great savings, how much money they and society can save with recycle and how much from saved money can be redirected for example to healthcare. It is the goverment who can set taxes to favor different, green or not so green powerplants, but ordinary people can make big difference with their daily choices, by buying sustainably produced products. That of course needs education, what kind of products should be favored. Blind faith or ‘green marks’ do not always tell the truth.

]]> By: msrantz http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/2010/02/05/environmentalism-spirituality-anarchy-oh-my/comment-page-1/#comment-167 msrantz Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:18:02 +0000 http://blueplanetshaman.com/blog/?p=420#comment-167 Hawk, great post! I wrote a bunch of stuff in response but unfortunately my computer lost it before I could hit send. I'm not happy about it. I'm taking a break until I can be inspired to re-compose it. Hawk, great post! I wrote a bunch of stuff in response but unfortunately my computer lost it before I could hit send. I’m not happy about it. I’m taking a break until I can be inspired to re-compose it.

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